Vacuum Cleaner

[Wongster]

Hi guys,

I've been reading about posts on dust collector on the various forums and am interested to see if I can implement one for my yet-to-be-realized-machine.

Can anyone share with me if household vacuum cleaners can be used as dust/chips collectors? or it has to be those commercial type?

I've a spare vacuum cleaner at home which has been in cold storage since I bought a wet & dry type of vacuum system.

Appreciate any input.

Regards,
Wong

[old man emu]

Wong, if it sucks stuff up the hose and drops it in the dust bag, it'll be OK.

Just now you can't afford to be spending money on luxuries like dust removal systems. Since you don't have any tools to build your machine, you should buy:
1. A small hand saw for cutting wood
2. A hand drill for drilling holes for screws and bolts. I'd suggest you go out on a limb and buy a 14 volt rechargeable drill.
3. One Phillips Head No 2 screwdriver
4. A steel rule 12"/30cm
5. A try square (so you can draw right angles)
6. A fine point marking pen or a pencil (2B)
7. A small hacksaw for cutting aluminium angle.
8. A set of drills from 3mm to 10mm

These should enable you to build 80% of you machine.

[Wongster]

Thanks Mr Emu (I'll skip the old man part ).

1. A small hand saw for cutting wood
2. A hand drill for drilling holes for screws and bolts. I'd suggest you go out on a limb and buy a 14 volt rechargeable drill. Got a dremel corded
3. One Phillips Head No 2 screwdriver have a few of this
4. A steel rule 12"/30cm easily available
5. A try square (so you can draw right angles) bought 2: one big one small
6. A fine point marking pen or a pencil (2B) from my daughter's pencil case...
7. A small hacksaw for cutting aluminium angle. using supported round shaft
8. A set of drills from 3mm to 10mm will break in my dad's factory for this and a proper hand drill. Dremel max size is 3mm.

[old man emu]

Originally Posted by Wongster

8. A set of drills from 3mm to 10mm will break in my dad's factory for this and a proper hand drill.

Ahh. I like your style. Keep getting your gear like this and one day we might make you an honorary Aussie.

My abbreviateed name is : OME

[Wongster]

Hi OME,

Been up Rockhampton (Shoal Water Bay training area or something. Can't recall) many years back for military training. Was an Armour Trooper training with your mechanised troop. The Aussie combat ration tasted rather good. Came complete with a tube of condense milk for the coffee - cool. The Aladdin was fast and silent. Coupled with no being familiar with the ground, we were almost outrun a few times.

Back to the topic.

The flickerness in me started again. this time leaning towards building in Aluminium. A Mexican gentleman I got to know from cnczone is kind to help me with my drawing in Solidworks, which he said is not sound technically (something about combined weight of Z-axis and router being too much forward on the x-axis). so he did up one for me (in solidwork unfortunately. How I wish its the real thing...) which is tilted towards the rear of the table. It looks something like the one posted by devilmaster in cnczone.

Actually, I like the Model D but can't bring myself to buy another piece of ballscrew and motor. Unless it is possible to use ballscrew and motor from one side of the y-axis to drive the other side (which I think may cause problem).

Wong

[No1_sonuk]

Originally Posted by old man emu

Ahh. I like your style. Keep getting your gear like this and one day we might make you an honorary Aussie.

I'd have thought an Aussie would go for a pillar drill if he's going to that much trouble!

Check out this thread over at CNCZone:
http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51385
This guy built himself a cyclone vac out of MDF, perspex, and drink bottles.
You could probably use your spare vac as the suction source. Doing it like that might prevent dust clogging it.

I have a Dyson vac that smells of sawn pine when it runs since I used it with my hand-held router.
In a local hardware store, I found a flexible pipe that was meant for the condenser on a drier which fitted exactly over the router's outlet at one end, and inside the Dyson's hose at the other.

[Wongster]

Do you have one to show? I need to work on something that will allow me to incorporate a vac while building. Do not want my wife to throw me out of our apartment due to noise and dust . Enclosure would be my next project.

I may be about to use the dust as beddings for my daughters' hamsters. Beddings are sold at a ridiculous price here.

Originally Posted by No1_sonuk

I'd have thought an Aussie would go for a pillar drill if he's going to that much trouble!

Check out this thread over at CNCZone:
http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51385
This guy built himself a cyclone vac out of MDF, perspex, and drink bottles.
You could probably use your spare vac as the suction source. Doing it like that might prevent dust clogging it.

I have a Dyson vac that smells of sawn pine when it runs since I used it with my hand-held router.
In a local hardware store, I found a flexible pipe that was meant for the condenser on a drier which fitted exactly over the router's outlet at one end, and inside the Dyson's hose at the other.

[No1_sonuk]

Mine is one of these:
http://www.dyson.co.uk/insidedyson/#DC02CLEAR
Though mine's not transparent.
They've been replace now.

[Wongster]

Looks like those "vacuum and mop" type of machine. Do you have a pic showing how you incorporate it in your setup? I kept running it in my head. The tube is flexible in mine but I'm worried that it isn't flexible enough to during movement.

I may also need to buy a longer tube. Just that with the increased in length, the machine may not be able to provide sufficient suction. I've to test it out though.

[No1_sonuk]

Nah, it's just a standard cylinder-type cyclone vacuum cleaner.

I don't have any pics of the setup as I use it on my hand-held router or circular saw. I set it up as needed.

The pipe I used is flexible, and similar look to the vac's main pipe (corrugated), but smaller diameter (about 20mm or so). As to loss of suction - those vacs have plenty of suction to spare!

[Wongster]

Cylone... let me see if I have a tornado in mine

Originally Posted by No1_sonuk

Nah, it's just a standard cylinder-type cyclone vacuum cleaner.

I don't have any pics of the setup as I use it on my hand-held router or circular saw. I set it up as needed.

The pipe I used is flexible, and similar look to the vac's main pipe (corrugated), but smaller diameter (about 20mm or so). As to loss of suction - those vacs have plenty of suction to spare!

[gadget47]

Hi All,
just looking and commenting, check my vac. attachment setup on youtube videos- look for 3sectionmonk videos. help and my design drawings are available to anyone wanting them.


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